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Jake Noble
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Posted - 2007.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Noble on 08/11/2007 22:37:18
What I am most concerned about here is the titans...
A mothership I can understand, maybe it fits a tobias web so it can web the dictor whilst sending drones to kill it...
But what exactly can a titan do for defence against this module? Its not like dictor bubbles where you may have a SLIM hope of hitting the probe with a smartbomb... but now? What is the counter to this module on a titan point of view?
Take for example RA/AAA camping one of our jump points for jump portaling freighters moving through *note - excellent idea * We can do cynos on the pos shield but 9 times out of 10 you bump off the cyno firgate; (titans cannot jump into a cyno beacon without getting bumped 100km away from the module...) The heavy interdictor decloaks swoops down and tackles the titan and cyno goes up cap fleet comes in... Being able to tank these heavy interdictors for doomsdays is so stupidly easy and can be done with the current standard dictor so really you cannot leave the pos shields which I believe was what you were trying to encourage via removing remote doomsdays.
I mean a mothership has defence but a titan is completely useless, the capital guns cannot track, do not do enough damage and are simply pathetic... Smartbombs well its range base, orbit at 10km and you can lol as you bubble the titan. The only real thing is its drone bay but 90 sec lock times and ****ty drones arent going to save your ass when 50 dreads are shooting you.
Can you either do the following ( NOTE THIS IS A BRAIN STORM ) :
A) Remove the hac resistances from the heavy interdictor - it must die to a doomsday...
B) Make the warp disruption field generator only work in low sec to stop the damn low sec camping mothership****gots.
C) Make it only tackle motherships ( at least they can defend themselves )
D) Increase the pricing on the heavy interdictor, there is no way that ship costing 50m can tackle a lead to the kill of a 45b ship that takes 3 months of build time. ( compression, components, yards )
E) increase the cap usage on the module so that it cannot be sustained over a ~30 second period.
F) Fix bumping... so if the fleet kills him / titan kills him the titan can warp out to safety.
Can you shed some light on the point of view from a titan pilot, should they be re-classed as an industrial ship - freighter jumper or actually a combat ship?
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Jake Noble
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Posted - 2007.11.08 22:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Silvero
Edited by: Silvero on 08/11/2007 22:53:30
Lissen to the man ^
And while we are on the Titan page, which are the actual slot it's gonna fill nowdays.
With jump freighters and jump bridge arrays and the "new" freighter mass the last practical use of a Titan are getting taken away.
[x] Invulnerbility
[x] Offensive capabilities
[x] Logistics
Yeah i think you got them all....
I have to say that the long waiting for the legendary Titan has reached a nice anticlimax.
After waiting for more then 3 years this ship, proclaimed to be the king of all ships turns out to be nothing.
Its almost as if its the ship they wish they had never created? 
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Jake Noble
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Valharu
Or is it that people forget they should never be alone and be protected by a swarm of defenders.
Realisticly there is nothing wrong with locking down a cap ship, even a Titan. What is wrong is if they are out alone without a host of protectors.
There really is not much of a half way point. You either go on the side of caution and make them vulnerable and have to be protected by a host of defenders. Or you make them pawnmobiles which is unrealistic.
Some people will use ISK as a reason for the later, but even today our Carriers are Heavily protected and that is still not a garentee that they won't be blown up one day.
My point is, sometimes people like to move around in eve... say I want to go to chamemi, from nol... to refuel, am I supposed to take a full fleet with me? Being as I can get tackled when jumping into chamemi for example.
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Jake Noble
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.14 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Noble on 14/11/2007 16:00:45
Edited by: Jake Noble on 14/11/2007 15:56:04
BUMP: what about allowing titans to use remote ECM bursts? ( or whatever the module that only motherships can use is called )
This would then mean if they are tackled they can ECM burst them and gtfo, rather than having 0 counter.
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